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Posted: 03/28/07 10:53PM ET
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Because he's locked in my basement and I have a vessel.
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Posted: 03/29/07 2:28AM ET
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if NOLA renamed the hornets "the tabernacle choir," do you think Utah would give the Jazz back?
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Posted: 03/30/07 7:26PM ET
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Wutang// you wrote:
"but what about the work we ask ourselves to do? personal maintenance, etc... it can't simply be a reward in itself.
yet, others may reward you, but most will go unnoticed and will only be its own reward.
should you work without reward?"
the experience of work is its own reward, remember? the points! I cant think of any type of "work without reward". In my life I have work at seemingly tedious tasks in and of themselves but why was I there? What was I provided with that allowed me to attain growth in other areas of life, outside of said tasks?
a paycheck allowed me buy heady dog food for River
+1 doggy bro
I was forced to be sober for 8 hours a day
+1 water filled organs
I was able to zen through the job and teach/lead by example
+1 leadership
I became efficient at said tasks, by finding them rewarding
+1 morale
people around me were put at ease
+1 communication
hope this helps!
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Posted: 03/31/07 10:20PM ET
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does anybody want to play chess on yahoo games
goto: yahoo/ games/ chess/ play now/ social room/ social lounge 9/
look for golfballgolfballs @ table 1
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Posted: 04/01/07 12:03AM ET
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we finally meet. The real greg scalet! Now I get to scratch that off my list. and possibly score some points...
love you.
what up miss monahan.
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Posted: 04/01/07 12:05AM ET
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rob???!
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Posted: 04/01/07 12:11AM ET
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salmon are the most stubborn animals on the planet. If we had their reproductive behavior, we'd only be able to have a kid during a few months of our lives, and we'd only be able to have that child in the exact same hospital room we were born in, without anything in that hospital room touched or moved since we were born.
If the river they were born in is fucked, a smart animal would try another one. That's all I'm saying.
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Posted: 04/01/07 3:02AM ET
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jess,
is there a market for a post-current era travel guide, journal form?
there's a plot, lot's of setting, and description, no dialogue except for with the reader, an observer walks across the US, from the east to the middle, including the city, Bridger Valley, and the West. I have maps and a couple thousand words...Im going back to school so i'd have to correspond over several years...what do you think?
there is not any character development as of yet, im guessing because the story has not been written.
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Posted: 04/01/07 4:47PM ET
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who let the dogs out?
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Posted: 04/02/07 6:03PM ET
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LAURA!
Email Me!!!
I miss you so much! I better see you in June!!!
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Posted: 04/02/07 6:13PM ET
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Nonsense
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For other uses, see Nonsense (disambiguation).
See Wikipedia:Patent nonsense for the usage of "Nonsense" in Wikipedia.
Nonsense is an utterance or written text in what appears to be a human language or other symbolic system, that does not in fact carry any identifiable meaning.
Contents [hide]
1 Distinguishing sense from nonsense
2 Teaching machines to talk nonsense
3 Literary nonsense
3.1 Nonsense verse
4 The philosophy of nonsense
5 Reference
6 See also
7 External links
[edit] Distinguishing sense from nonsense
While Emily Dickinson wrote that:
Much madness is divinest Sense
To the discerning Eye…
The problem lies in the discernment. Distinguishing meaningful utterances from nonsense is not a trivial task. Confronted with a lengthy text in an unknown script, how does one determine whether those characters in fact contained a meaningful text, or were simply set using the equivalent of printer’s pi or a lorem ipsum-style text?
The problem is important in cryptography and other intelligence fields, where it is important to distinguish signal from noise. Cryptanalysts have devised algorithms for this purpose, to determine whether a given text is in fact nonsense or not. These algorithms typically analyze the presence of repetitions and redundancy in a text; in meaningful texts, certain frequently used words—for example, the, is, and and in a text in the English language—will occur over and over again. A random scattering of letters, punctuation marks, and spaces will not exhibit these regularities. Zipf’s Law attempts to state this analysis in the language of mathematics. By contrast, cryptographers typically seek to make their cipher texts resemble random distributions, to avoid telltale repetitions and patterns that may give an opening for cryptanalysis.
[edit] Teaching machines to talk nonsense
It is far harder for cryptographers to deal with the presence or absence of meaning in a text in which the level of redundancy and repetition is higher than found in natural languages: for example, in the mysterious text of the Voynich manuscript. Some have attempted to create text that in fact carries no meaning, but still complies with the regularities predicted by Zipf’s Law. The Markov chain technique is one such method. This has occasionally been put into the service of surrealistic jokes; the fake Usenet poster Mark V Shaney posted texts generated by a Markov chain algorithm, and frequently launched flame wars with his unfathomable screeds.
The Markov chain technique is one method that has been used to generate texts by algorithm and randomizing techniques that seem meaningful. Another could be called the Mad Libs method: it involves the creation of templates for various sentence structures, and filling in the blanks with noun phrases or verb phrases; these phrase generation procedures can be looped to add recursion and give the output the appearance of greater complexity and sophistication. Racter was a computer program that generated nonsense texts by this method; however, Racter’s book, The Policeman’s Beard is Half Constructed, proved to have been the product of heavy human editing of the output of the program.
[edit] Literary nonsense
Main article: Literary nonsense
The phrase “Colorless green ideas sleep furiously” was coined by Noam Chomsky as an example of nonsense. The individual words make sense, and are arranged according to proper grammatical rules, yet the result is still nonsense. The inspiration for this attempt at creating verbal nonsense came from the idea of contradiction and irrelevant or immaterial characteristics (an idea cannot have a dimension of color, green or otherwise), both of which would be sure to make a phrase meaningless. The phrase “the square root of Tuesday” operates on the latter principle. This principle is behind the inscrutability of the koan “What is the sound of one hand clapping?” One hand would supposedly require another hand to complete the definition of clapping.
Still, the human will to find meaning is strong; green ideas might be ideas associated with a Green party in politics, and colorless green ideas criticizes some of them as uninspiring. For some, the human impulse to find meaning in what is actually random or nonsensical is what makes people find luck in coincidence, believe in omens and divination, or engage in conversation with a computer (see ELIZA effect).
The dreamlike language of James Joyce’s “novel” Finnegans Wake sheds light on nonsense in a similar way; full of portmanteau words, it appears to be pregnant with multiple layers of meaning, but in many passages it is difficult to say whether any one person’s interpretation of a text is the “intended” or “correct” one. There may in fact be no such interpretation.
“Jabberwocky” is a poem (of nonsense verse) found in Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There (1871) by Lewis Carroll. It is generally considered to be one of the greatest nonsense poems written in the English language. The word “jabberwocky” is also occasionally used as a synonym of nonsense.
[edit] Nonsense verse
Nonsense verse represents a long tradition; its best known exponent is Edward Lear, author of The Owl and the Pussycat and hundreds of limericks. But according to Douglas R. Hofstadter, the crowning achievement in a nonsense limerick goes:
There once was a man of St Bees
Who was stung in the hand by a wasp;
When asked, “Does it hurt?”
He replied, “Yes, it does,
I’m so glad it wasn’t a hornet.”
A “limerick” that does not rhyme and is not funny, which makes it funny. The above limerick was actually a parody of Lear’s limericks by W. S. Gilbert.
Nonsense verse represents a tradition older than Lear; the nursery rhyme Hey Diddle Diddle is also a sort of nonsense verse. There are also some things which appear to nonsense verse, but actually are not, such as the popular 1940s song “Mairzy Doats.”
Lines of nonsense frequently figure in the refrains of folksongs. Nonsense riddles and knock-knock jokes are seen often. Lewis Carroll, seeking a nonsense riddle, once posed the question How is a raven like a writing desk? But someone answered him, Because Poe wrote on both. However, there are different answers (e.g. both have quills).
In the field of Art, the Dada movement created nonsense art as an expression of disaffection with art and a society that seemed unavoidably addicted to the insanity of war.
[edit] The philosophy of nonsense
Philosophically, nonsense masquerading as sense is the gist of the charges of pseudoscience and pseudophilosophy.
For the examination of verifiability, falsifiability, and unfalsifiablility, British philosophers in the early twentieth century mooted the phrase, "The present king of France is bald." At that time France was governed by the Third Republic, so there was no king.
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Posted: 04/02/07 6:32PM ET
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wallawalla
I released 12 goldfish into the 10 year pond at the bottom of the hill. I allowed the bag of water they were in to acclimate to the temperature of the pond water.
The store I bought them from classified them as feeder fish. I need them to eat the mosquito larvae (of ten year proportions!).
I opened up the bag slightly and three immediately went out. 2 of those three went for anything floating at the surface and immediately spit it out. The third meandered away from the bag a ways.
Then 5 goldfish swam out, wait, 6, one of them was the brown translucent colored fish - I could not immediately recognize it.
then two more fish went out. I lifted the bag out of the water, and one of the two tried to bite and hold onto the bag, and jump back into the bag.
So the question, aside from the nonsense is "Do Salmon make choices?"
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Posted: 04/02/07 6:40PM ET
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"the experience of work is its own reward"
thank you for that. it's been a rough day. peas.
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Posted: 04/03/07 10:39PM ET
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i really don't know, greg... but good luck with your book... i know *i'd* be interested in reading it!!
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Posted: 04/04/07 9:19PM ET
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*smiles*
thank you
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Posted: 04/04/07 9:58PM ET
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+1 encouragement?
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Posted: 04/04/07 10:12PM ET
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+1 confidence
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Posted: 04/04/07 10:15PM ET
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+1 understanding (me)
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Posted: 04/06/07 4:31AM ET
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+1 friendship?
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