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Phucko
Posted: 02/06/09 12:55PM ET  
National Football Post Diner News

6 February 2009

QUOTE: “Experience is the teacher of all things.” ~ Julius Caesar, Commentarii de Bello Civili (Commentaries on the Civil War), 50s or 40s BC

FROM MIKE REISS OF THE BOSTON GLOBE… There is a strong possibility the Patriots will trade Cassel, though Patriots coach Bill Belichick did not indicate that as an option in his comment in today’s press release. “Matt has been a pleasure to coach his entire career and last season in particular, when his years of hard work and commitment resulted in a most impressive performance,” said Belichick. “We look forward to working with Matt again in 2009.” Today was the first day teams can designate franchise and transition players. The 26-year-old Cassel, who made 15 starts after Brady’s injury, completed 63.4 percent of his passes and threw for 3,693 yards and 21 touchdowns with 11 interceptions. He becomes the first offensive player and just the fourth Patriot to be franchised by the team, joining Adam Vinatieri (2002 and 2005), Tebucky Jones (2003) and Asante Samuel (2007).

Now the interesting part of the Matt Cassel saga begins. The Patriots, as we told you a month ago, would take this step, but now the drama is about to unfold. Clearly, the Patriots want more than the low third-round compensatory pick they would have received from the NFL. Who will be the major players in this sweepstakes? Here is an educated guess.

THE OBVIOUS TEAMS

DETROIT LIONS — The Lions are in the best position to make this decision. As they evaluate college quarterbacks, they can measure how Cassel compares to the quarterbacks in the draft. They can part with their second first-round pick, 20th overall, and feel like they’ve gotten two blue chip players in the first round. It will cost more than the 20th pick overall, but for the Lions, they must think quality over quantity, and getting two quality players is much better than four good players, especially if one of the quality players is a quarterback. There is a deal here — but first things first. Someone in the Lions’ building must make the determination which player is better, Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez or Cassel.

MINNESOTA VIKINGS — This team, as much as any in the league, needs one more piece to make a significant difference in its roster. Finding a legitimate quarterback was the first order of business when head coach Brad Childress took over, but he has failed so far. With a talented quarterback, the Vikings go from being contenders in the NFC North to Super Bowl contenders. They currently have the 22nd pick in the draft. They could part with that and another second rounder and would be close enough to make a deal. I’m not sure that will be enough to satisfy the Patriots, but they will be in the ballpark. The Vikings have the cap room, the willingness to make a trade (as evidenced by their deal last year to acquire Jared Allen) and a huge need. I would make them the early frontrunners. Childress is on the hot seat, and fixing the quarterback position might help him avoid more heat.

TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS — After seven years of Jon Gruden moving and changing quarterbacks and getting older at the position, the Bucs are now desperate to fix things. They have a huge need and a ton of cap room. They have a mid-level first-round pick (19th overall), a young head coach and a young defense. The time is right to make a bold move and find a long-term answer at quarterback. Matt Ryan (Atlanta) and Drew Brees (New Orleans) are fixtures in the NFC South. The Bucs need to find a fixture, too, and right now they don’t an answer.

SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS – Who is the 49ers’ quarterback? Are they going to go back to Alex Smith or do they really think Shaun Hill is the answer? The 49ers have to address the quarterback position and find a long-term answer. They have cap room, they have the right pick (10th overall in the first round) and they have a need. However, I’m not sure anyone in the 49ers building is going to have the fortitude and the will to make this happen. They will convince themselves that Hill can lead the team. But they need to understand that they won all those championships because of the quarterbacks. Maybe the late, great Bill Walsh’s voice will be heard somewhere in the building, reminding the 49ers what made them great.

ST. LOUIS RAMS — Someone in the building gave Marc Bulger a huge contract, and I’m sure that person is gone. But new coach Steve Spagnuolo and new GM Billy Devaney must fix this position before they can think about turning around the team. Bulger might have the money, but he doesn’t solve the long-term problem. The Rams are like the Lions — they have to make their determination of Cassel as he compares to college players. Unlike the Lions, the Rams just have their own high pick, and I doubt they would be willing to make that move. I suspect the Rams will not be strong players in the Cassel market.

CHICAGO BEARS — At some point, the Bears will have to address their quarterback situation. There were times last season when Kyle Orton appeared to have a good handle on things, but after sustaining an ankle injury, he was not the same productive player he was earlier in the year. The Bears need a marquee player on offense, someone they can build around and make all the other pieces fit. They need someone they do not have to manage but who can run a complete offense. The need is there, but I doubt the Bears will be serious players. They have the 18th pick in the first round, but they hate to part with picks.

NEW YORK JETS — Jet fans can forget about Brett Favre coming back. It doesn’t look good, or even make sense, for the long- term future of the team. The Jets are in a mess at quarterback, not because they made the Favre trade but because they picked a pass-catching tight end at the bottom of the first round instead of Chad Henne, the quarterback from Michigan who went to Miami. I like Dusty Keller as a player, but they needed a quarterback then and they need one now. However, if you ask anyone inside the building, they all seem to be smoking the Brett Ratliff great-player pipe. Let us face it, even though Eric Mangini is gone as head coach, the Pats and Jets are not doing any deals. The Jets have the 17th pick in the first round but they’re going to be tight getting under the cap, and they still have to sign running back Leon Washington. This looks like a good idea on paper, but it probably won’t happen.

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS — The Chiefs have all the elements in place to make a deal for Cassel: new offensive-minded coach, new GM (who gets along with the Patriots) and a very high pick. So why won’t it happen? Well, for one, the Chiefs are high on Tyler Thigpen, who played well at times last season. They also might not want to give up the third pick of the NFL draft for a player they may feel is not much better than the one currently on their roster. The Chiefs will hold on to their picks and will be reluctant to part with any of them. GM Scott Pioli knows Cassel as well as anyone and knows what he brings to the table and how he is different from Thigpen, who I’m sure he knows well by now.

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Phucko
Posted: 02/06/09 12:56PM ET  
SLEEPERS

WASHINGTON REDSKINS — The ‘Skins are going to live and die with their current quarterback, Jason Campbell, and have put the word out that they will not be players in the free-agent market. However, they will need to consider making this move and should do their homework before they dismiss the notion of a trade. Trust me on this, a year from now the ‘Skins will be looking for a quarterback.

CAROLINA PANTHERS — They have too many other issues to fix and don’t have a first-round pick, but they have a huge need. They can’t count on Jake Delhomme much longer.

This is going to be very interesting to watch, but one thing all these teams must do is decide how Cassel compares with the draft class at quarterback. It is that evaluation that will allow teams to make the right decision.
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oh and... real eyez
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Dog_Log
Posted: 02/06/09 12:57PM ET  
There lots of talk here in Minnesota that we will trade for him.
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Phucko
Posted: 02/06/09 12:58PM ET  
i wonder how pioli feels about tyler thigpen
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Phucko
Posted: 02/06/09 1:01PM ET  
i wonder if the fact that belichick and childress hate each other over the whole garrett mills fiasco will throw a wrench into anything with the vikes
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jgannon2001
Posted: 02/06/09 1:03PM ET  
i think he goes to minny. just makes the most sense. i also think they will want 2 picks, but spaced out over 2 years so as not to take the cap hit all at once. so maybe minny gives up their 2nd this year and 1st next. i think that would get it done.

would also like to see the pats work something out with the chiefs with picks and a "disgruntled" tony g. in the mix.
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rivot_ride
Posted: 02/06/09 1:04PM ET  
Some dude pissed on him at the Superbowl
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Phucko
Posted: 02/06/09 1:05PM ET  
tony g to the pats would be epique
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tiga5252
Posted: 02/06/09 1:13PM ET  
Wouldn't be surprised if Detroit would make a grab for him since theyre in rebuilding mode and have two first round picks. Amazing to think how down everyone was on this guy in August after some awful preseason games and now there's a chance they could get a 1st rounder for him.
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UnLearnYourself
Posted: 02/06/09 1:18PM ET  
With Minnesota being so close to having a truly explosive team it might be the time for them to throw down big for a Cassel trade.

BUT, coming from the Patriots perspective, if they get a #1 and a #2 from them it still doesnt guarantee that the Pats will end up with a sure producer.

SO, that leads me to ask: Does Minnesota have any defensive backs, or linebackers that they would be able or willing to add into this trade?

If not, I'd be surprised if Cassel goes for picks alone, UNLESS Belichick & Co. have a rediculous level of confidence in a player in the draft that they have equal confidence in their ability to pick up.

Should be fun and interesting!
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Sam_Waterston
Posted: 02/06/09 1:22PM ET  
What if Brady isn't ready to go come Week 1?

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Phucko
Posted: 02/06/09 1:24PM ET  
some nice on the job training for nick cesario
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Phucko
Posted: 02/06/09 1:26PM ET  
"What if Brady isn't ready to go come Week 1?"

all signs point to him being ready, unless you ask tom curran or some clueless blogger
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Phucko
Posted: 02/06/09 1:37PM ET  
mortenson seems to think cassell will remain a patriot at 14 mil
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UnLearnYourself
Posted: 02/06/09 1:47PM ET  
I think so too. Regardless of what reports say, until Brady steps on the field nobody knows how his play will be. And if Brady comes back healthy as can be the Pats still have 6 weeks to move Cassel, and those same 6 weeks to see if their 3rd round QB pick from last year is ready to assume that backup roll should Cassel leave.
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tiga5252
Posted: 02/06/09 7:10PM ET  
I can't believe people think the Pats are gonna keep Cassel around even if Brady is alright, just in case he goes down again. They have two probowl quality players that hit the open market next year. It makes no sense to tie up so much money in Cassel and Brady, when you could be inking new deals to keep Logan Mankins and Big Vince around.
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Green Monsters
Posted: 02/06/09 7:20PM ET  
is there a deadline to trade Cassell? The longer they can wait to see how Brady is coming along, the better.

I would take the pick over an established DB, that way you get a rookie and can groom him to work within the system, as opposed to some guy who might not be willing to listen or do what it takes to be a part of the Pats D. That is why there are very few player for player trades in the NFL.
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tiga5252
Posted: 02/06/09 7:51PM ET  
much rather take a pick over an established DB myself, for one other reason - You control a rookie at a cost friendly number. Any established DB that is coming over here in a trade worth Cassel, is gonna have a big salary to add to the books.
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