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Posted: 08/22/05 12:49PM ET
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Sounds like a crazy bust. Who's next?
Link
There is a link to the sheriff's statement and a video at the bottom. The sheriff's statement conflicts with the promoter's.
I can't watch the video at work. I will check it out tonight. Let me know what it shows.
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Posted: 08/22/05 12:49PM ET
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ya just read that on ptbisco that is some insaaaaaane shit right there
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Posted: 08/22/05 12:49PM ET
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Link won't work for me, can you paste the article?
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Posted: 08/22/05 12:55PM ET
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Sad.
Goes to show authority will and can do what they want. Your rights truly don't count.
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Posted: 08/22/05 12:57PM ET
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Disturbing, to say the least.
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Posted: 08/22/05 12:58PM ET
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It goes to show that cops can do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it.
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:00PM ET
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the biggest gang in the city
the pigs
i can't get any of the video to work, this sucks
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:02PM ET
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If they keep that kinda shit up, the people WILL revolt. Then they will be really fucked, and all kinds of people will get hurt or killed. The Constitution is set up so that the people are allowed to revolt against an unlawful government. Dangerous situation...
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:03PM ET
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UTAH RAVERS TREATED LIKE TERRORISTS!
by Apollo
Sun Aug 21st, 2005 at 22:30:30 PDT
UTAH RAVERS TREATED LIKE TERRORISTS! EVOL INTENT'S ACCOUNT OF THE INCIDENT!
Originally Posted by knick evl ntnt
Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.
So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...
At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn't far off.
Apollo's diary :: ::
The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.
No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.
Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..
One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.
The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.
The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here right now."
Now.. let's get the facts straight here.
This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.
Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!!
Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-con's with an agenda.
This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I can't even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers... why? Was that really necessary?
This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we're losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think that's BULLSHIT!
The system fucked up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.
I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I'll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work.
p.s. - there are more stories of police brutality that i'll post up later. gotta hit the airport soon. can't wait to get the fuck out of this shit hole state.
www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php
SHERIFF'S STATEMENT: http://www.utahcountyonline.org/News/DeptNewsDetails.asp?ID=17759&WN_S
ystem=SHERIFF
VIDEO: http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:03PM ET
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by no means an excuse but it is Utah...
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:04PM ET
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has anyone found any video link that works?
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:04PM ET
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RAVE
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:05PM ET
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Go to that other thread...There's a link in there that works. Pretty crazy.
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:08PM ET
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i think the video is at http://www.music-versus-guns.org/
but i cant get the site to fully load, I am sure they are rediculously swamped with traffic. news like this important
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:09PM ET
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if these cops get off for this shit then i truely believe America is no different than early Nazi Germany. not the germany we all think of, with mass murders and such. but the beginning, when Hitler used his secret police to go and take away rights of the citizens. that was truely disheartening to read.
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:11PM ET
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http://fatbaron.com/videos.html
that works
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:11PM ET
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:12PM ET
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this shit affects all of us.
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:13PM ET
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that video is fucked. wow
holy shit I couldn't imagine what that must have felt like for those kids in attendance! That is some scary scary shit right there. Jesus christ
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:15PM ET
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yeah- another reason why I will never live in Utah. A bummer that they have beautiful places/parks and amazing skiing.
I think the whole state police force of Wyoming goes to bed at 9pm. As long as you are out of towns then you can go nuts!
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:15PM ET
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"i think they're serious, they got guns man"
"yeah, they are dude"
maaaaaaaan
i would be scared as FUCK
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:16PM ET
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got sick to my stomach watching that
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:16PM ET
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Everyone needs to see this. scary.
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:20PM ET
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wow just watched that video. disturbing shit. and i read the police statement and that sounds like 10 pounds of camel shit. they are going to cover their asses and probably get away with this shit.
all i can say right now: WHAT THE FUCK?!?
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:22PM ET
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it's unfortunate that all those beautiful parks are in Utah.
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:22PM ET
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Holy shit!!! I just watched the video. Who the fuck decided appropriate to break up a permitted event, with helicopters and the fucking military with machine guns!!! This needs to be on every nightly news program in the country.
This as an isolated incident is just fucked up, but stuff like this is happening all over the country, all the time. It is starting at the fringes, but militaristic control is becoming increasingly systematic. And that is not paranoia.
Throw a frog in boiling water and he'll jump out. Put him in tepid water and slowly turn the heat up- he'll sit there and cook to death.
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:25PM ET
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still, you have to be impressed with the tenacity of Utah police enforcement in doing everything they can to keep drugs out of their state. you have to remember that, for a lot of people, this action is completely acceptable. nobody was killed, and there probably won't be any more raves around there anymore. The message probably would not have gotten through if they had just a couple of undercover cops handing out citations.
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Posted: 08/22/05 1:26PM ET
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utah
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